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Income and Expenditure

coolgardie
suggested this on August 19, 2010 15:59

When inputting money in or money out , it would be very helpful if the Income category was linked to money in and the expenditure to money out.  As it is quite easy to to choose the wrong category when your working with alot of entries. is there a possibility that this can  be arranged at the next update. Thanks.

 

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ChrisMollan
3rd Sector Digital Ltd

Hi,

I appreciate that it is easy to select the wrong category, especially if you have re-ordered the category drop down listing.  However, you do need all categories showing just in case you, for example, receive a refund on say telephone - you would have to enter this as a "money in" item but allocate to an expenditure category.  It would get messy if you had to do this somewhere else.

How about if we colour code the list e.g. income related codes different colour to expenditure codes etc?

Chris

August 19, 2010 22:55.
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coolgardie

Hello Chris,

 

Thanks for your prompt reply.  I am still not clear with your answer. Yes, colour coding would be one option. I am still not sure the reason  for not linking income to money in and expenditure to money out.  This way, there would be less  errors.  Also, it would be very helpful if the inputter had the priviledge of adding or deleting , example Parish Centre Revenue 1 (SENIOR CITIZENS) or Parish Centre Revenue 2 (WED IRISH DANCE CLASS). This way each Parish can adapt the system to suit their local church.

August 20, 2010 15:28.
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ChrisMollan
3rd Sector Digital Ltd

Hi,

Maybe I'm not quite clear on your request - what do you mean by "linking income to money in and expenditure to money out"?  Can you give an example?  Do you mean that when you select "money in" you only see income related codes on the drop down list?

The system does allow codes to be added, edited and deleted however your admin department will control whether Parishes have this facility or whether it's purely at an "administrative level" - might be best checking with them on this part.

Chris

p.s. I merged your last comment to the original request to keep the flow of the conversation.  Can you make any replies below this reply in the same topic.  Many Thanks.

August 20, 2010 15:36.
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coolgardie

Hi Chris,

Once again thanks for a quick reply.  Yes, linking income codes (drop down) to money in and expenditure codes (drop down) to money out.

 

August 20, 2010 15:48.
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ChrisMollan
3rd Sector Digital Ltd

Unfortunately I do not think seeing only the codes that relate to money in or money out will work because it's too restrictive.  For example,

Say you are paying the telephone bill on a monthly DD each month; then the telephone company sends you a bill and it turns out you have overpaid and they send a cheque back to you.  What you want to do is enter this payment into the correct code (e.g. telephone code) to make the telephone costs accurate.  However, if you restrict the codes as you say on the "money in" tab then you will only see money in related codes and would not be able to allocate it to the telephone code.  You are not able to post negative numbers in the money out tab either.

However, the current way of showing all codes means that you can simply select money in and then select telephone code and post it correctly into the code.

It depends on how you have set up the code listing (under parish settings > custom settings) and the order you have stated as there are various ways of separating income and expenditure codes.  However, as I suggested the other way is to colour code the codes, say red for income and blue for expenditure - this way you can be sure not too select the wrong code.

Hope this helps

Chris

August 21, 2010 09:20.
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claireharris

I see your point Chrisand do think colour coding would be helpful.

Claire

Warwick

August 21, 2010 13:02.
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paulinemclaughlin

Please can you direct me to online training videos - every link I click on says this 'user has closed their utube accoun t'  ???

 

Pauline Yelverton

July 16, 2011 19:19.
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paulinemclaughlin

Hi - my question relates to one off gift aid donations.  Livigni n the West Country we get a lot of visitors to our church.  I dont understand why the financial manager cannot enter one lump sum  for these (each week) and the gift aid manager allocate the envelopes.    The weekly collection donatons are entered as one lump sum for the gift aid manager to allocate to envelopes so why cant this happen with visitor gift aid please PLEASE??

 

Pauline Mclaughlin, Yelverton

July 28, 2011 13:43.
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ChrisMollan
3rd Sector Digital Ltd

Hi, you should be able to do this.

You are able to allocate envelopes to one off donor's and as long as you do not tick the 'one-off' tick box when posting the transactions into the bank then this will filter into the envelope donation screen.

Chris Mollan

July 28, 2011 14:41.
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paulinemclaughlin

Thank you very much for your response.  Will this not affect the gift aid manager being able to idenity visitors as seaprate from parishioners making weekly cash donations.

August 02, 2011 22:12.